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Gender Genie

I wonder if this is accurate :)

Have fun, Christine.

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It worked for me!

I pasted 812 words of No Obligation, Part 14 into the Gender Genie and it came back with the following score:

"Female Score: 1025
Male Score: 694

The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!"

I wonder what the algorithm it uses is based on -- it seems to single out words like "and," "to," and "the" as well as pronouns and a few others.

Guess I'll go read more on it -- i'm hooked!

Randalynn

RANDA'S LOG, SUPPLEMENTAL: *grins*

I pasted in examples of works by Larry Niven, Robert Heinlein, and a female author whose work I read named Kelley Armstrong. The algorithm correctly identified the gender of the author all three times. Wow!

Gender, Gender, what is my Gender?

Well, this was kind of fun. Just to check it out I let it analyse "The Christmas Gift." If you believe that you can tell gender by the words you use then I'm female. A high complement for someone who's transgendered.

I copied the results and pasted them below, If anyone is intrested.

Words: 10060

Female Score: 16200
Male Score: 11370

The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!

Analysis
Feminine Keywords-----------Masculine Keywords
[with] 76 x 52 = 3952-------[around] 11 x 42 = 462
[if] 23 x 47 = 1081---------[what] 40 x 35 = 1400
[not] 129 x 27 = 3483-------[more] 19 x 34 = 646
[where] 13 x 18 = 234-------[are] 37 x 28 = 1036
[be] 71 x 17 = 1207---------[as] 77 x 23 = 1771
[when] 37 x 17 = 629--------[who] 12 x 19 = 228
[your] 48 x 17 = 816--------[below] 2 x 8 = 16
[her] 200 x 9 = 1800--------[is] 112 x 8 = 896
[we] 85 x 8 = 680-----------[these] 6 x 8 = 48
[should] 12 x 7 = 84--------[the] 301 x 7 = 2107
[she] 144 x 6 = 864---------[a] 202 x 6 = 1212
[and] 206 x 4 = 824---------[at] 46 x 6 = 276
[me] 94 x 4 = 376-----------[it] 87 x 6 = 522
[myself] 7 x 4 = 28---------[many] 3 x 6 = 18
[hers] 1 x 3 = 3------------[said] 10 x 5 = 50
[was] 139 x 1 = 139---------[above] 1 x 4 = 4
----------------------------[to] 339 x 2 = 678

Hugs & Giggles
Penny

Interesting

erin's picture

It seems to think women are more personally involved in what they write while men use more of the language of approximation.

- Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

Well it got me - sorta - Both of me

tigger's picture

I gave it a dual test. I first fed it a chunk of my professional writing (dissertation stuff - Non-Fiction), and then a sizable bit of an Aunt Jane story.

The dissertation came back Male (score was 5x male over female), whereas with Aunt Jane, my female score was 20 percent higher than the male.

Guess I would say that dichotomy was about as accurate as it could be. I did the male/female brain test from the site JulieO postd to the FM hyperboard a week ago, and scored exactly zero when the average male scores 50% male (on a 100% male scale), and the average female scores 50% female (on a 100% female scale) (tried to make this work in proportional font using preview - if it doesn't work, sorry)

|----------|---------|---------|---------|
100%...... 50...........0...........50.........100%
fem........avg............|........ avg...,,....male
..........woman.....Tiggs.......man...........

strange, isn't it, that the two tests seem to tell me the same thing? I think 'in between' therefore I am 'between'

I am me.

warm furry hugs!

Tigger

According to ...

...the NY Times article, it was designed to analyze fiction, not non-fiction. So ... I don't know. *grin*

Randalynn

well, according to the website. . .

tigger's picture

There was a radio button selection for fiction or non-fiction, so I tried both with the aforementioned results.

warm furries. . .

Tiggs

A Changling

I copied a section from a new story I am working on where the main character ____ ______ _____ thinks _____ (can't give too much away) and it said I was male.

I then posted a portion of the Nutcracker and it said I was female.

I'm as confused as ever.

As always,

Dru

As always,

Dru

Oh noes!

Rachel Greenham's picture

They'll be coming after me with a staple gun and a pickle jar!

So, part 1 of Game Theory came out "Male" Argh. (By 71639 to 69543) Individual chapters went either way.

I've done this before, a few years ago. IIRC Tuck Squared came out Female. Does this mean I'm getting more male as time goes on??!

Oh noes!!! My endocrinologist will be hearing from my solicitor! :-)

On the other hand, the author of The Taken seems to be a bit more of the distaff persuasion. The prologue came in at Female by 30981 to 25096. Nathan's Story, is written by a girl, by 88188 to 78705, After A Fall was penned by a feminine hand by a whopping 112333 to 88476 and the work-in-progress first two chapters of part three are girlish by 28071 to 22629.

So we can see clearly that it's my proofers that make a girl of me. ;-) And it's all nonsense, innit?

Gender Genie

I put part of a feminist science fiction story I am working on thru it and it came back 4:1 Female.

I am a transgendered woman. Right on.

Gwen

MIddle of the Road

I fed it chunks of multiple stories and each time came back more or less right in the middle...a swing of roughly 100 one way or the other was a common outcome for me.

Does that mean I'm really androgynous? :)

Never let it be said that I don't enjoy the occasional delusion of grandeur

Never let it be said that I don't enjoy the occasional delusion of grandeur

Oh Oh, I'm Worried Now

I'm afraid if I put some of my fiction in it, they will say I'm not human.

Must resist urge to try.

John in Wauwatosa

John in Wauwatosa

I'm with John here..

kristina l s's picture
...I mean..I don't need some computer program to tell me I'm screwy. I know that already!!!! I'm probably human...but that might depend on who you talk to. Kristina

Not so much

Puddintane's picture

Idly sampling large blocks of text from several female authors, I found that the program thought that all of them were male, including Amy Goodman, Ellen Goodman, Molly Ivins, Jane Austen (when she's not depicting female conversation and trying hard to present them as flighty females), and Hildegarde of Bingen. The only woman I discovered who the program thought was female happened to be Katie Roiphe, but just barely. Although this identification was kind of iffy (Katie turns out to be female by only two points) the program is obviously flawed, since Katie is one of the most male-identified women I know of.

Looking over the list of words and how they're sorted, it's obvious that the program believes that almost anyone who writes professionally, or has been trained in journalism, "writes like a man," while anyone who takes any interest whatsoever in women is tainted by femininity.

The words "her," "she," and "hers" are all poison, infecting a passage with feminine sensibility. This alone casts doubt on the fairness of the test, since one would hope that either men or women might be able to write about women without prejudice. On the other hand, the word "what" is somehow masculine, so any depiction of a conversation with someone hard-of-hearing obviously brands the writer as male.

Most of the scores were actually fairly balanced, with the average difference between the scores on the order of 10%, but still...

I then looked at several women who write genre romance fiction and are very popular with female readers:

1. Christine Feehan -- Female -- Female Score: 6912 -- Male Score: 4845 over 4057 words.

2. Jennifer Apodaca -- Male -- Female Score: 1734 -- Male Score: 2200 over 1590 Words.

3. Linda Lael Miller -- Female -- Female Score: 6814 -- Male Score: 6705 over 5205 words

4. Linda Howard -- Female -- Female Score: 3665 -- Male Score: 3306 over 2589 words.

With the exception of Christine Feehan, the differences are not overwhelming, although moderately predictive over a small sample. Three out of four isn't too terribly awful.

Comparing these two groups, both made up of professional writers but the first consisting of women (with the exception of Jane Austen) who want to be taken seriously, and the second made up of women who are quite deliberately setting up to please women and write scenes that sound "girly," one does see differences, but they're not terribly consistent.

These didn't seem all that conclusive, so I looked at me:

Sample 1: Female -- Female Score: 20417 -- Male Score: 14882 over 12300 words.

Sample 2: Male -- Female Score: 28344 -- Male Score: 31287 over 21639 words.

One reckons that I'm not terribly consistent either...

The Guardian article pointed to on the page comes to similar conclusions, since *all* the female columnists were identified as male, and the only iffy identifications consisted in misidentifying male columnists as females.

All in all, it looks to me like the so-called "test" is one of gender stereotypes, and the more one attempts to conform to those stereotypes, the better the program likes it.

It's at least as much fun as reading horoscopes, and probably just as accurate.

-

Cheers,

Puddin'

A tender heart is an asset to an editor: it helps us be ruthless in a tactful way.
--- The Chicago Manual of Style

To bra or not to bra?

I tried it with four samples of text ranging from 480 to 1800 words in length taken at random from Deception of Choice .

Twice it thought I was female, twice male.

The programme is to be congratulated on achieving a balanced view, which is quite refreshing in this day and age. However as a base for establishing a reliable indication of gender I must conclude that it still needs some fine tuning.

Fun though! :)

Fleurie

Fleurie

Interesting but flawed

After submitting several chunks of my stories with mixed results, I took a long look at the words it was using to catagorize the writers. For instance, the word "around" was seen as a male word and scored very highly. It became obvious to me that the program has no way to weigh the context in which a word is used. I can think of many perfectly valid uses of "around" in a feminine context, yet these would all be considered "masculine" by the program. It would be entirely possible to select the high-scoring words and write a short story that would convey one outlook to a reader and another to this program.

Something else I noticed with my stories at least, the larger the sample I gave it, the more feminine I became. 500 words of "Twins" was rated masculine, but the same 500 words along with the following 2000 bumped it way over the line into feminine.

So, this has to be a fun but essentially meaningless toy to play with. Thanks for pointing it out, I had a blast wasting at least an hour playing with it!

Hugs!
Karen J.

Change is inevitable, except from vending machines


"Life is not measured by the breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.”
George Carlin

I don't know

My last chapter of my story (Woman in the Mirror) received a score of: "Female Score: 16933/ Male Score: 13312 The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!" Also, my first four chapters received: "Female Score: 12781/ Male Score: 10455. The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!"

I can’t stop wondering how some words seem simply gender associated, while others not. There are various ways to express some things, but sometimes not. Technical definitions just simply cannot be genderly expressed. Also is the author writing about a male or a female persona? (IMHO) Content speaks louder.

Period Piece

Out of curiosity I entered (in five installments) the first half -- about 30,000 words -- of Aunt Jane's Nieces, by L. Frank Baum, writing as Edith Van Dyne in 1906. It was the first of a series of novels for 10-to-14 year-old girls (Baum's contract with his publisher described the genre as "Louisa May Alcott, but not as good").

(The copyright has lapsed and the story can be found in ebook format at www.gutenberg.org/files/10123/10123.txt . The novel came up for discussion on Erin's Tuckerspawn site a couple of years ago; it's not a TG story (other than the author's pseudonym) but could have become one fairly easily, and there are some superficial similarities between Baum's "Aunt Jane" Merrick and TG fiction's "Aunt Jane" Thompson.)

Anyway, Gender Genie identifies all of the 14 chapters entered as significantly female; the total count is 40633-31985. I'd be more impressed, though, with Baum's ability to write in a female persona if I didn't suspect that almost any novel or tale written in the popular styles of the 1890-1920 period would score the same way.

Eric

Context

Checking out my own work, such as it is:

- Using the nonfiction setting on Gender Genie, my five most recent articles about the baseball simulation called APBA (1800-3000 words each) all show up as solidly male.

- Using the blog setting, the five comments on the Tuckerspawn board (560-1200 words each) that I checked turn up significantly on the female side.

- Using the fiction setting, the five TG story fragments I've written (none close to complete, they range from 500 to 3650 words) split almost down the middle: two on the female side, two on the male side, and the fifth nearly even (1671-1699, Male). One "male" entry is all exposition; the two "female" ones are mostly dialogue. The near-even split is also mostly dialogue. In the long "male" entry, the expository chapter is heavily (822-1230) male, the conversation that follows (between five parallel-world versions of Tuck/Valerie) about 3900-3700 female.

FWIW, I wouldn't say that anything I've written comes from a feminine perspective or persona; I'm convinced that context is the controlling issue here. My guess is conversation and bulletin-board-type interaction both lead to more sentences that include words on the female side of Gender Genie's ledger, while story exposition and stand-alone articles produce words on the male side.

Eric

Interesting

I submitted 3 of my non-TG stories.

The first is a very short one I wrote for a competition and is a love story - gender=male

The second is a short exercise in romantic fiction, gender = male

Both the above are what I would describe as feminine subjects. The first had me crying as I wrote it and even when I read it aloud for friends.

Now the third one is a very bloodthirsty one about a severed head and that came out as gender = female. Just shows you what women are REALLY like :o)

Geoff