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So I called the bank that has my car loan, and after next week, I can authorize a lump sum payment and clear the debt.

I haven't been debt free since I graduated high school, so it will be a good feeling.

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crash's picture

Debt is sticky. It's easy to get into and so hard to get out. Glad you made it on this point.

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Crash

I got debt free

Patricia Marie Allen's picture

It only took five years after I filed bankruptcy.

I had no credit for the next 30 years. I lived within my means. Funny thing is I was punished for not going into debt. My car insurance rates were higher because people with low credit score (mine was none existent) are obviously bad drivers. My likelihood of being hired for a good paying job was poor, because I must be untrustworthy because I had no credit. I was even less likely to be able to rent, even though I always paid my rent on time, because I had no credit.

Then a strange thing happened. One day I was ordering something on Amazon and they offered me free shipping if I would apply for a credit card. Well, I knew no fool would give me credit, but I was up for free shipping. So I applied for the card and got my free shipping. Two weeks later, I had a credit card. So I went to Amazon, made the credit card my preferred method of payment then went to the credit card site and setup automatic pay and forgot about it. I didn't even carry the credit card it sat in my drawer at home. I didn't buy much from Amazon, maybe three to four times a year, and never more than $50 at a time. Then about five years later, I turned 70 and started drawing Social Security. I was still working so all the SS went into savings. and a year after that I set my retirement day for age 72. I decided that I needed to have a newer, reliable car. So I went on a search for a good late model used car.

When I found it I was prepared to spend up to $8,000 cash on it. As they were doing up the paperwork for the car, the salesman informed me that they could finance the entire amount. I told him he must be mistaken. He turned his computer around and showed me my credit score. It was over 700. I paid cash for the car anyway. I'd gotten used to being debt free and wanted to stay that way. As I approached retirement I took a close look at my finances knowing I was about to be one of those on a fixed income. Looking at the way the rents were going up, I figured that two years after retirement I wouldn't be able to afford my rent.

So I started looking for some small place I could buy. Housing prices were right there with the rents in the town I lived in. So I started looking in the outlying areas. Even then it was still out of my price range. And then I happened on a small town which had had two devastating floods two years apart and the property values were low. It was a buyers market. I got a realtor and after about six month I found a three bedroom manufactured home (above the flood plain) on it's own land (1265 sq. ft.) with an asking price of $150,000. I'd been working with a lender who did a bang up job of figuring my monthly payment including property tax and insurance. I knew that $150K was just a bit out of my price range, but the realtor told me to make an offer. I offer $140K and three days later I my offer was accepted. Six weeks later I moved to a small town.

It used to be a lumber town, but the mill shut down in 1957. My grandmother ran a hotel here in the 40s and early 50s so I have family roots here. It's been great. Now, I have a credit rating of pushing 800. My current debt, aside from my mortgage is about $300. I bought my wife a new computer for Christmas and payed with "Amazon Pay" I've been knocking it down at $100 a month (started paying in December since I ordered in November) but, I've decided to wipe it out in February. If I'd have bought it any other time of year, I'd have paid it off with the first bill, but with five people to buy for at Christmas and two birthdays in the second week of January, I opted to use that credit.

Debt free is good.

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Patricia

Happiness is being all dressed up and HAVING some place to go.
Semper in femineo gerunt

Since HS?

Daphne Xu's picture

In debt ever since HS ended? Oh my! That's got to feel almost like you're levitating, with that weight off your back!

-- Daphne Xu

Awesome Dot!

My dad believed in never getting a loan for anything. For years I followed his teachings on this. I had no credit cards, everything I did I did with cash. Only kept a small part of my savings in the bank for my checking account and debit card, the rest went into a secret compartment in a dresser in my bedroom. Never bought a new car, always went to the car lots and found one they were ready to haul to the junkyard that still ran, would drive it home and fix it back into reliable running condition.

Then I saw a house I wanted to buy. Of course it was something I couldn't pay cash for. My eyes were opened with that fiasco! I was under the impression that to have "bad credit" would stop one form buying a house, but I was in worse shape, I had NO CREDIT!

To fix that I had to go from never using credit to always using credit in some form to pay for everything. It's kind of stupid to have to do that, but everything now gets put on a credit card and at the end of the month the credit card is paid off.
Couple years ago I bought my first car ever using a car loan a 2016 Ford Fusion. Also moved my secret stash of cash to the bank into a saving account.

I almost backslid a couple of weeks ago. I had been looking, but not very hard, for a cheap, needs some work, 4x4 truck. Something I could use on those nasty winter days where the idiots are out slipping and sliding around on the snow and ice and running into each other. Let them run into the truck instead of my nice car type of vehicle. Found a full sized 94 Ford Bronco for 1500 bucks, looked it over and figured another 500-700 would have it purring like a kitten and able to climb in and out of ditches and snowbanks with ease. On my way to the bank to grab the cash, I thought abouthow I had been increasing my credit score and ended up talking a personal loan out for 2500 to cover buying it and anything it needed along the way.

We the willing, led by the unsure. Have been doing so much with so little for so long,
We are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

Debt and Proxy Variables

I've been in debt since high school. At one point I was $3.5 million in debt. I shudder when I think of how much I've paid in interest. I've always concentrated on net worth.

Credit is what actuaries call a proxy variable. That is the mathematics of using a measurable variable (credit) to measure a variable that cannot be measured - responsibility. It is believed that responsible people will have fewer accidents.

When insurance companies first started using credit for promulgating premiums I wrote a letter to a friend who was our state insurance commissioner at that time. I told him that I thought using credit for this was a feeble attempt to replace the practice of declining that had just been banned. Redlining was using geographic location to determine risk elgibility.

Later several companies shared data with me that back-proved the legitimacy of the correlation between credit/responsibility/loss predictability. I sent another letter to my friend stating my revised opinion.

Jill

Angela Rasch (Jill M I)