Any Post-op using Propecia

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A Dermatologist has prescribed Propecia to prevent Male Pattern Hair loss. Does any Post Op have experience with this?

Many Blessings

Gwendolyn

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Wouldnt Androgens or just

Wouldnt Androgens or just lack of testosterone now stop that? it SHOULD stop once theres no T in either way.

Testosterone Blockers

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Gwen,

Once you have stopped producing testosterone, the use of a testosterone blocker is a moot point. If one has been physically or chemically castrated the blockers are no longer needed. I guess at this point, we need the magic hair restorer. Unfortunately, except in the cartoons, I don't believe it exists. :-(

Portia

Portia

MOB and Propecia

MOB is caused by dihydrotestoterone (DHT) which has the effect of causing the pores and folicals of the head to narrow and finally close up, and the root does not or cannot regrow hair as it should. It should be eliminated by srs. As Portia said, theoretically after srs or orchiotomy continuation of propecia should not be needed. But preop, the chemical finesteride (which what propecia is) acts as an antiandrogen, but maybe not sufficiently strong to use as an antiandrogen in the propecai dose. Both of the treatments usually prescribed below are for lifelong use in order to work. Some younger post ops have reported thickening hair growth with normal estrogen hrt. However, some post op women have continued to lose hair in the male pattern after surgery, so the medical opinion may or may not be correct. MBP is apparently genetic, though may or may not be inheritable (inconclusive information), but one might speculate that enough of the DHT might be made in the body from the natural androgen secreted from the adrenal gland to continue MBP in post ops. One thing to recognize is that natal women also have baldness issues, and in some cases it can even be MBP.

The two common treatments:
Finasteride (brand name: Propecia): This is a lower-dose version of a drug that shrinks prostates in middle-aged men. Propecia is by prescription and is taken once a day. Propecia does grow and thicken hair to some extent, but its main use is to keep hair that's still there. It's therefore best for men who still have enough hair to retain. One side effect is impotence, but this is no more common than it is in the general population, and is reversible when the drug is stopped. Taking Propecia once a day is easier than applying minoxidil, but the prospect of taking a pill daily for years doesn't sit well with some men. There's also the cost, about $60/month, not reimbursed by most health insurers. It acts as an antiandrogen, and a stronger dose is good for preops for that purpose, but will likely not have an additional effect over the minimal dose.

Minoxidil (brand name: Rogaine): This topical application is over-the-counter, no prescription is required. It works best on the crown, less on the frontal region. Available as a 2% solution, Rogaine may grow a little hair, but is better at holding onto what's still there. There are few side effects with Rogaine. The main problem with this treatment is the need to keep applying it twice a day, and most men get tired of it after a while. In addition, Minoxidil works less well on the front of the head, which is where baldness bothers most men. This drug also comes in a higher strength, 5%, which may be a bit more effective. There is a Rogaine for women.

Most sources say that propecia and minoxidol have widely varying effectiveness in post menopausal women who have tried it. The drug companies claim to have versions for women.

CaroL

CaroL

Be aware, you will have a 30 day deferral as a blood donor

If you take Finesteride, Propecia, Rogaine, etc. at the American Red Cross.
I believe it even covers donations you are banking for your own medical purposes. (I'l check on this, this evening )
If you are taking one of these medications and need to bank blood, that means you will have to stop the hair loss medication 1 month before donating.

Holly

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Holly

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is also mildly anti-androgenic, it prevents testosterone becoming di hydro-testosterone and can be taken by women to help with hirsuteness and facial hair, that sort of thing.

It doesn't require a prescription and is probably cheaper than those horrible chemicals.

The problem with many of the drugs is that any regenerated hair growth stops as soon as you stop taking them.

Angharad

Angharad

male pattern baldness... what about

baldness due to other causes???

I have a streak of baldness which is due to an old situation (about forty years ago) which happened to place a layer of radioactive dust across my forehead and up into my scalp... The opinion of the doctors at the time was that the hair loss would be permanent (which leaves me as not much in the way of a happy campter) That is the only thing preventing me from regrowing all my hair. Besides it is slightly lop-sided as I wiped the perspiration from my forehead and up into my hairline using my right uniform sleeve.

Will the aforementioned treatments help with restoring hair to an area that was damaged by radiation???

Any answers out there???

God Bless You...

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I suspect not.

Surgical correction may be possible with a forehead revision, very common part of facial feminization surgery these days. I cannot comment further without seeing the actual damage.

Kim

Agree with Carol

Even post-op, adrenals continue to produce testosterone albeit in small doses. Once you are sensitized, you are sensitized as I know too well.

Another off-label use of a blocker is for Avodart which supposedly provides a little better blocking.

Kim

The primary reason.

The reason that I originally went to the Derm Doc was that I had all sorts of inflamation and lesions in my scalp. They would often get scaly and bleed. So, it feels like they keep ignoring my complaint and keep trying to deal with the hair loss.

The inflamation is so bad that I can't even wear a wig. So, now I am sort of stuck with my Al Amira Hijab, even when I don't want to wear it. I actually experienced some hair regrowth after I had SRS.

I wonder what the long term effect of the finasteride is? I will probably take it for a while before I decide what to do. Then maybe I'll try that oil.

Thanks
Gwendolyn

Hair loss and finasteride

As mentioned above, finasteride blocks the conversion of testosterone to DHT, the form that causes hair follicles to wither in male pattern baldness. Even after orchiectomy/SRS, your adrenal glands still produce some testosterone, so if you're prone to male pattern baldness (or were before SRS) there's still potential benefit to taking it. The dose in Propecia should be adequate for that.

What you're describing, though, sounds more like either a fungal scalp infection or autoimmune psoriasis, based on experience with a similar condition in my soon-to-be-ex (DISCLAIMER: I Am Not A Doctor). If your dermatologist has already tried unsuccessfully to treat for a fungal infection, you might consider going to see a rheumatologist.

Rheumatologist?

Not long ago I was reading something about a condition like that being caused by RA. So far, my joints are mostly good. Oh they hurt a little but I have not gotten the swelling and big joints yet. At 62 I think I am doing OK so far. I do have degenerative bone disease apparently caused by my being to playful and getting hurt too much.

I'd now be afraid to admit to some of the stuff we used to do as kids for fear of being thrown off BC because I was too stupid to be here. :)

Gwendolyn