Scottish gender recognition reform bill - JK Rowling

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The Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill will amend the Gender Recognition Act 2004 to introduce new criteria for applicants who wish to obtain a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC).

Obtaining a GRC means a trans person is legally recognised in their acquired gender and can obtain a new birth certificate showing that gender.

The Bill will require applicants to make a legally binding declaration that they intend to live permanently in their acquired gender. They will no longer need to provide medical reports or evidence.

Applicants will be required to live in their acquired gender for a minimum of three months, with a reflection period of a further three months before a certificate is granted.

The Bill proposes a criminal offence for applicants to make a false statutory declaration, with a potential punishment of up to two years’ imprisonment.

The Bill follows extensive consultation. Almost two thirds (60%) of respondents to the Scottish Government’s 2017 consultation on the principles of gender recognition reform were in favour of introducing a statutory declaration system for legal gender recognition.

Social Justice Secretary Shona Robison said:

“Trans men and women are among the most stigmatised in our society and many find the current system for obtaining a Gender Recognition Certificate to be intrusive, medicalised and bureaucratic.

“This Bill does not introduce any new rights for trans people. It is about simplifying and improving the process for a trans person to gain legal recognition, which has been a right for 18 years.

“Our support for trans rights does not conflict with our continued strong commitment to uphold the rights and protections that women and girls currently have under the 2010 Equality Act. This Bill makes no changes to that Act

When I googled it up pops this

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The usual bollocks about making "women only" space unsafe. Since when has a GRC been needed to access "women only" spaces?

On a good day I could go into most without a problem. As long as didn't draw attention to myself. I don't have a GRC. They don't check genitalia on the door.

JK's remark about menstruating was very wrong. So women that don't aren't women? I'm pretty sure she probably doesn't now. What about all the women that never did? Is she saying a XX female who doesn't isn't a women?

‘People who menstruate.’ I’m sure there used to be a word for those people. Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?

It shows the power of the press to whip up a problem where there isn't one. It would be a bigger story if if weren't for Ukraine.

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The problem is

Angharad's picture

That many people with mental health issues can have issues of gender identity which are only related to the illness, rather than true gender dysphoria, so I believe some monitoring by mental health experts is necessary, unfortunately, there aren't enough to meet the demand because it can be a rather long-drawn-out process.

I'm aware that there are so many different categories of people under the trans umbrella, that I'm not sure I realise them all let alone understand them. I recognise that I'm one end of the spectrum as a dyed in the wool, post op transsexual woman, who has a GRC and is now legally classed as female unless I want to get married in a church of England church. I'm also aware that in ordinary living, my life is no different to millions of biological females or to thousands of individuals who live as female but still have their original genitals, which may be because they aren't suitable or eligible for surgery or simply want to keep them, though personally, I have a bit of difficulty with chicks with dicks calling themselves women.

I accept that I could be seen as elitist or possibly just more committed to femaleness, but then as I have said before, I have no difficulty with binary, because it works for me and I went from one side to the other. Half the other terms I don't understand, gender fluid or gender queer, what does that mean exactly?

Perhaps I'm getting old, but I do wonder what will happen when some of the new people decide after 3 or 6 months that they want to revert because they don't like the changes. Presumably, they can drop the process, but after 6 months and they have a GRC and have given a lifetime commitment to the new role, what if they want to revert then? Are they told they can't, or is that cruel?

It will probably work for many but for the ones who have symptoms of mental illness masquerading as gender identity disorder or whatever they're calling it because it's Tuesday, who is going to help them? So as I said at the beginning of my soap box address, I'm not at all sure but not as outspoken about it as JKRowling.

Angharad

Elitist? I don’t think so.

Back in the 80’s and 90’s “Uncle Russell” – you know who I mean – was known for handing out hormones like sweeties. However, it did have a point – I knew people at the time who quickly went off the idea of being TS once “things” stopped working. Those who were genuine were delighted when this happened to them. I certainly was.

Hormones and / or orchidectomy at the very least demonstrates sincerity and commitment. It really should be more difficult than just saying "I want to", and keeping it at least a bit difficult actually protects some people from themselves as well as protecting the rest of us.

what if they want to revert

leeanna19's picture

what if they want to revert then?

Probably have to do it again?

You would be trapped legally as a woman . I'm sure I could get a story out of that that doesn't involve feet LOL

I didn't know about C of E not allowing marriages. I thought they had softened on that

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Leeanna

I suspect

This might help explain, in some small degree, why the gatekeepers in the US have set such stringent rules for "gender confirmation surgery". Gives more time for the potential changee to reconsider what they are doing.

Also a bigger slice of the pie for the shrinks. Lawyers normally suck up all the chances to make an extra buck or two early on. This time the doctors got there first and nabbed all the extra gelt. The lawyers only managed to get in on few side hustles. You can't win, you can't break even, and they won't let you out of the game.

Damaged people are dangerous
They know they can survive

BBC Woman's hour just now

And on it goes. The woman who recently lost her university job speaking out against us has just been interviewed again. Once again the women's changing rooms or showers thing - supposed trans woman with a beard, or naked showing male bits and pieces. Sorry, but no genuine trans woman - TV or pre-op TS would do that - ever! And I would be just as uncomfortable seeing it.

I don't know if it has ever actually happened, but if it did I would complain as loudly as any other woman.

You find hysteria like this

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You find hysteria like this on many women's issues ( was that sexist using hysteria?) A policeman murderers a woman. Then none can be trusted. Some second hand unsubstantiated report and the trans are coming to watch us get changed.

Something I don't understand, many of these TERF feminist have it in for men and trans women. They complain about the patriarchy and male privilege. Why is it there are a lot more trans women that men, if life is so easy as a man?

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Leeanna

I think you'll find

Angharad's picture

that the numbers of youngsters seeking referral to gender clinics are mainly girls wanting to be boys. How times change. Those who've already gone through the system would be older and M-F may outnumber F-M. On the whole, I'm sick of activists who talk in stereotypes and make me feel uncomfortable as I believe in gentle persuasion. I've also done my bit and just want to live quietly and save the world, the natural variety.

Angharad