plane crash in Wauwatosa

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news article on it.
Small cessna airplane crashed Thursday May 26 2022 only the pilot on board. The 18 y/o survived in critical condition the crash of what is currently believed to be his first solo flight.

This just jumped out at me from old member John from Wauwatosa's name.

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Been There Done That

BarbieLee's picture

Take off is optional, landing is mandatory. Landing is also up for debate for what is called a "landing". Thousands of landings in my lifetime. Two of those times the airplane wasn't in as good a shape as when it left the ground. Walked away from both even though the planes were totaled. Brownie Points nor bragging rights are awarded to pilots who trash their plane. There is no shoulder to pull over onto when the engine quits. If the young student had been doing take off and landing all day, he probably ran out of fuel. If this was his first solo his instructor will be on the carpet.
Hugs Dawnfyre

Oklahoma born and raised cowgirl

yeah

dawnfyre's picture

You know the NTSB will dig until they find the cause and someone will get nailed.
Even though I'm not a pilot I know the first solo is never completely alone in the plane, the instructor is there as co-pilot until the student goes through the entire flight and is safely back down.


Stupidity is a capital offense. A summary not indictable.

Instructor flies with the student until

BarbieLee's picture

Dawnfyre, you are thinking of the first time an aspiring student goes up. That's not the solo flight and you're right the instructor is always there also.

I have no idea if FAA has a certain number of hours for a student to train with an instructor before turning the student alone on his own? Way back in the dark ages it was up to the instructor to determine if the student was ready or not. The instructor won't be there forever and the time comes, if he or she is ready, to fly off by his or her self. It's call first solo flight because that is exactly what it is. One person, one aircraft, and make the takeoff, approach, and landing pattern around the airfield. The same thing he or she has done dozens or maybe hundreds of times with the instructor beside him or her.

Oklahoma born and raised cowgirl

1st solo

Average for first solo is usually after 10 to 15 hrs of duel instruction (instructor on board), though it can be (and often is) more (lots of variables). Solo means exactly what it says, there is no-one else aboard other than the pilot.

Getting past all the bloody ads I was finally able to get this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_pilot_licence

Even older ones run out of

Even older ones run out of fuel. They're pretty sure that's what happened with John Denver. Flying (which he wasn't supposed to be doing - his license had been suspended), in an experimental plane, with only partly filled dual tanks, and the valve to switch between tanks on the _back_ wall of the cabin, between the seats.

They think he knocked the stick when he was twisting around to switch tanks, and went into an uncontrollable spiral.


I'll get a life when it's proven and substantiated to be better than what I'm currently experiencing.

yup

dawnfyre's picture

Which is why I specifically mentioned how young the pilot is, so we would know it wasn't John.


Stupidity is a capital offense. A summary not indictable.

Spells "R" us?

Adult to teen?
Non-transgender apparently.

Yes, John is missed by many of us.