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If this was available in California then Holly Hart might have grown up normal:

http://globalnews.ca/news/1253902/does-male-or-female-no-lon...

shalimar

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For all victims of sexual discrimination!

Rhona McCloud's picture

I think this is a legally viable option because as well as TG children it will help anyone who has been or thinks their children might be disadvantaged by an M or F on a piece of paper so lots of potential voters there.

What no law can change is any individual's self-image or emotional reaction to another but not having ones prejudices backed by law would be cause for thought as all TG people know. Also such a major legal shift would undoubtably bring a host of unintended consequences - has anyone written a scenario where for example everyone is treated as gender neutral until say 18 then makes an irrevocable choice?

Good luck to future generations, it has been "interesting" enough being an often embarrassingly stereotypical baby-boomer feminist woman born with an M assigned

Rhona McCloud

I have a slight problem

Angharad's picture

in doing away with the dualism, while I recognise it might cause difficulties with children, gender identifiers are important in roughly classifying people or are we going to do away with the terms man/woman boy/girl male/female. Why can't officialdom allow children's genders to be changed as required with a more permanent status after adulthood is achieved?

Maybe it's a sign of age but I'm not comfortable with someone declaring they have no gender or wanting to be something other than male or female. I don't even like transwoman or man. I'm female end of story.

Angharad

The Ancients

Many ancients did not see gender in duality. The Greeks had at least two transgender legends. The one I remember the name of was the creation of Hermaphadity. Indian civilization also had a legend. Many Native American tribes allowed a person to officially change gender within the tribe. The Mishna (Jewish code of law) had six sexes (others are: mostly male, mostly female, both and neither) and also recognized the status of the unic.

shalimar

California

In 2006 I could have changed my name and gender in California, where I was born, for a mere $100. What has changed?

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Gender neutral.

Being somewhat fluid in my own sense of gender identity and consequently 'gender mobile', I would have no problem with having a third box using either V for Gender variant or N for gender Neuter or even X for gender unknown/uncertain.

I base my feelings on the conviction that gender identity is essentially a cerebral factor not a physical one. This conviction is based on the reality that gender reassignment/correction/change or whatever else you wish to call it, invariably involves physical surgery to match the individual's body to their brain gender and not vice-versa.

From my perspective gender is certainly not binary. I think a third box with optional letters would be ideal to enable an individual to freely and openly declare their gender identity as THEY feel or see it without fear or censure. The legal/bureaucratic/societal establishment of that personal right would eventually alter society's attitude towards gender variance.

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Born in Oklahoma,

Living in Texas.

Neither state will allow Gender changes on birth certificates. Just the way it is. And it is for religous reasons of course.

California's policies look pretty good from here.

This can be useful I guess

But it fragments and confuses the public view of trans folks. Sexual orientation seems pretty straightforward by comparison.

But us trans folks, 'they just can't make up our minds' is what other people would see it as.

My partner who is non-op recently had an accident and wound up in shock trauma with a fractured skull. While they treated her well there was no way for me to enter into a discussion of why she is non-op and that kind of thing. Like it or not to have all society the whole spectrum of trans expression may be too much. It would help to teach it as part the school curriculum but don't expect that if ever.

I have a problem with the

I have a problem with the notion that the majority has to go with what a very small minority wants.

That is not the way things work in a democracy.

Although, i think people should be able to change the information on a birth certificate for free if they are transsexual.

I also think a third letter should be added for people born with mal-formed genitals ie intersex people. As said elsewhere, i think an 'X' for intersex would work.

although i agree with you

although i agree with you that birth certificates should be easy to change for transgendered or even cis-gendered people..

In the world we live in an intersex option at birth would cause alot of issues growing up(bullying for one) no sex designation on birth certificates would be alot better in the long term... have people declare their sex when they first vote or apply for a drivers licence