Technical question about Crossdressing

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Hi everyone,

I need help for my most recent story. Well, technical help. My protagonist is essentially a she-male (I know many hate the term, but I don't know a better one) and I figure he'd have troubles wearing girls' jeans. I need to know if you can actually squeeze your nuts if you don't do it right and what you need to do to avoid it.

It's a Whateley story and the protagonist wants to pass as a girl (to avoid the trouble of being known as queer) and thus needs to wear girlswear even though he doesn't like it very much.

I hope someone can help me there.

Beyogi

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It all depends

... as there are some people whom have their cavity down below unfilled with fat and can actually push their whole groin up in (rare) and most who cannot because fat and other tissue filled it in. Also intersexing can provide that cavity being fat free (Due to the womb behind them) rather than the unusual of a male having that area free of tissue and fat.

You can make the scenario believable.

Sephrena

Okay... say we have the worst

Okay... say we have the worst case and there is fat behind, but you still want to fit into girl trousers. What would you do in this case?

A gaff

Angharad's picture

or tight panty girdle can hold everything flat enough between the legs to appear smooth. It isn't comfortable but doesn't do permanent harm. Anyone who's on oestrogen would have small testes after a while anyway - it shrivels them up if it's enough to cause breast growth.

Angharad

Okay... so that wouldn't be

Okay... so that wouldn't be something you'd want to do for hours if you can avoid it... I don't really want to test it myself ;), but is it painful or just no so nice?

A panty girdle is one of those tight female boxer shorts, right?
I'm not quite sure what a gaff actually is. Google tells me it's somekind of fishing hook, but I doubt that's what you mean.

Anyway, thanks for your help this gives me some ideas at least.

What you need to search for....

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Is called a dancer's gaff, from what I understand this is what Drag Queens use

"The things that make me different are the things that make me." - A.A. Milne
"Nothing happens until the pain of remaing the same, outweighs the pain of change." - Arthur Burt

I don't recommend using that

I don't recommend using that kind of gaff! 8-)
Go to Youtube, there are many videos on gaffs, home made or commercial, also the use of tight control panties.

Karen

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Just have them stuff their balls up into their body cavity and tuck their cock back firmly and slip on some reeeeal tight underwear. :)

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Balls Up!

I think I always had small testes, but I'm sure they were small when I was in my 30s (I'm 63 now, almost 21 yrs post-op). There are passages in a guy's lower abdomen thru which the testes descend to get to the sack. Some of us can/could push the balls up into these passages. A gaff will prevent them from popping out and hold a penis, pointing back, tight to the body.

I can describe a simple gaff. The 'holding it in part' is an isosceles triangle about 4" wide and 7 - 10" long. The 4" wide part is in the front and is sewn so a belt (shoe string size or slightly larger can pass thru it. The belt is tied, etc. around the abdomen just above the hips so the narrow point of the triangle hangs down in front of the crotch. The point could been sewn to make a belt loop or a belt sized string could be sewn to it. If it's a string, just pull the string back thru the crotch and tie it to the belt. The belt will be pulled down in the front and the back, but held up with the hips. Tightening the belt and/or the back string will pull the gaff upward holding in the balls and dick.

As soon as i started dressing for more than a few hours, I would get used to the parts tucked up and back, then not even notice them. I rode a 100 Km bike race tucked sitting on those parts and it didn't bother me at all.

I had two problems wearing girls jeans; my quads (thigh muscles) used to be pretty big and the jeans would sometimes be too tight there and often if they fit everywhere else, the waist would be too small. I could get pretty lean, but my waist stayed fairly large. At one point I was 40" chest, with no breasts, 29 or 30" waist and 39" over my stick-out butt. I wore a 12 or 12 tall in just about everything, but I think misses size 12 jeans had something like a 27" waist. I never tried anything like a corset, that might have worked, but I didn't want the expense. I also didn't know any XDer or Tgal that admitted to having one.

Hugs and Bright Blessings,
Renee

I can describe a simple gaff.

I can describe a simple gaff. The 'holding it in part' is an isosceles triangle about 4" wide and 7 - 10" long. The 4" wide part is in the front and is sewn so a belt (shoe string size or slightly larger can pass thru it. The belt is tied, etc. around the abdomen just above the hips so the narrow point of the triangle hangs down in front of the crotch. The point could been sewn to make a belt loop or a belt sized string could be sewn to it. If it's a string, just pull the string back thru the crotch and tie it to the belt. The belt will be pulled down in the front and the back, but held up with the hips. Tightening the belt and/or the back string will pull the gaff upward holding in the balls and dick.

Thank you, now I know what this actually is. I mean I saw it in a few TG-stories, but it was rather strange when wikipedia didn't know it.

"As soon as i started dressing for more than a few hours, I would get used to the parts tucked up and back, then not even notice them. I rode a 100 Km bike race tucked sitting on those parts and it didn't bother me at all."

Good to know. I figured it might hurt if you did it wrong, but as you describe it, it shouldn't be a problem if you use the right underwear.

Thanks for your help Renee.

She-males.

Hi Beyogi.
I might be just the person you're looking for.

I must confess, others would describe me as a 'she-male' and for want of a more descriptive title I don't let the word upset me. frankly, I'll describe my self.
Height 1,75m (5'9") Bust 36C Waist 30/32" Hips 38 Size 8-EEE to 9-E shoes. Weight 12 stone 8 pounds (176Lbs.
I still have my male genitalia and It is invisible when I tuck backwards, I cannot push my testicles up into the iningual cavity because i have had patches inserted on either side to correct a bilateral iningual. Consequently, my testicles tuck backwards alongside my penis to become invisible if I wear tight cycling panties to hold them back. Strong, lycra panties with a thick protective pad in the crotch to protect said crotch from the rigours of the saddle on long rides, also serve perfectly to hide any trace of a 'bulge'. Additionally, my genitalia have atrophied because I self medicate with Progynova and Spirolactone, so there is now little to hide. The secret for me and most of my friends is tight underwear and control-top tights, (panty-hose)

If you have any other questions about tucking, PM me.

I am however, planning on an orchidectomy some time this year to obviate the need for Anti-androgens, (Spirolactone.)

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Thank you for your advice.

Thank you for your advice. I'm curious. How long does it take on a low hormone dose for the balls to atrophy and boobs to grow? My protagonist has ovaries for two months, but they're not really working so far. I imagine he's on estrogen and less androgens, but it's not like a full blown female puberty.

Beyogi, I wear women's jeans

Beyogi,

I wear women's jeans and shorts with no problems, except they are a little loose in the hips. However, my tighter jeans do not give pose any issues when I am "tucked". When I started wearing a gaff it bothered me only for a couple of weeks. Now I wear one all the time with no problem at all. If I don't wear a gaff, just a smaller size of panties does the trick too.

Amberlynn

Thank you. Would they give

Thank you. Would they give you problems if you weren't properly tucked? Like just wearing boxershorts and jeans and tried to get your genitals into them? It seems like my protagonist won't get away with wearing his male underwear... he won't like it :D

Thank you for your help,
Beyogi

I'm sure there is ;) I don't

I'm sure there is ;) I don't think Jan will like to be seen in bikini's though. He has somekind of severe aversion to female-only clothing and warpaing :)

Thank you for your suggestion though.

Given it's a Whateley story...

...cheat! :) Once he arrives at the Academy, if he's got a sufficiently large allowance, send him on the first bus to Dunwich and Cecila Rogers' boutique. She's helped many students with custom clothing requirements (including Ayla Goodkind, who, although looking very girlish [with a typically large chest], has a rather large package 'down below' and still considers himself male).


As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!

Well... custom clothing is

Well... custom clothing is expensive and my protagonist's allowance isn't that big. He'd rather try something else first before spending hundreds of dollars on jeans and underwear. I'm using Zenith/Zoe as a mentor. She had kind of a similar problem so I figure she'd be willing to help.

The simple answer is: Yes!

Ole Ulfson's picture

I'll PM you the method. After all, this is a family site. We may be a strange little family: But a family nonetheless! Use what you deem proper for your story.

Ole

We are each exactly as God made us. God does not make mistakes!

Gender rights are the new civil rights!

Battle of the Bulge...

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...when asked about the single most painful part of manipulating anatomy for the sake of a 'smooth' front, Timmy Kinnard, grandson of Lt. General Henry O Kinnard of the Ardennes Counteroffensive, he merely quoted his grandfather...

"Nuts!"

  

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Perhaps...

The thing I found painful was simply that if I got aroused, the constriction of the appendage was acutely painful. I was lucky enough to be rendered monoglandular at 25, so had only half the problems of others. Later 'shrinkage' removed a lot of the problem.

"Rendered Monoglandular"

"Rendered Monoglandular" sounds painful... I can imagine that getting aroused would be a problem for a teenage boy... well mostly boy.

Monoglandular

Cancer. I asked for BOGOF (TFTPOO back then) but they didn't understand.

YouTube shows a method that's

YouTube shows a method that's relatively painless, All you need is the elastic top from a pair of panty hose, and the top part of sweat sock.
You pass the elastic through the sock top, and step into the two sides. pull them up, tuck behind, and presto! no bulge. Easy to pee, easy to keep extras in a purse, and it's cotton against the testes.
Karen

While...

While I'm not a cross-dresser, I've been wearing women's jeans since the early '80s (and for most of that time, I passed quite well as a guy).

The kicker is how tight they are around the crotch... Not all girls wear skin tight jeans! (My wife & older daughter certainly don't... My younger daughter - 16 - only wears them occasionally.)

Annette