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To everyone here, I would like to say Happy Star Trek Day!
Today, on September 8, 1966, Star Trek premiered on NBC with the episode, "The Man Trap." 50 years later, Star Trek still thrives and endures. Boldly going and continuing to break barriers along the way, and all over the heads of the network censors (seriously, they actually did that back in the '60s).
So, may you all Live Long and Prosper!
Drakira
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It was in Living Color...
...that I watched all by myself on our Black and White Sylvania console TV.
Love, Andrea Lena
Color TV
A lot of the "color tvs" took a great deal of imagination to see color in '66.
Like Kirk and Co. I will be celebrating my 50th high school reunion in a week.
One "L" of a month.
Jill
Angela Rasch (Jill M I)
Thanks belong to the fans who
Thanks belong to the fans who kept the spirit of the show alive in the early and mid-70s and got it rebooted twice- once for the movies, and once again for the Next Generation.
I'm told STFU more times in a day than most people get told in a lifetime
If you use vudu streaming
Classic Star Trek is on sale for 19.99 a season this week
Thank you, Lucille Ball
Lucy gave the greenlight to Gene's project at Desilu, not too long before she and Desi sold the studio to Paramount who were unsure of what to do with the franchise after the NBC cancellation. To most of Hollywood, SF was kids' stuff but the themes of Star Trek were clearly adult. The cognitive dissonance was worthy of one of those conversations between Spock and Dr. McCoy. :)
It took them about a decade to work it out but now it is hard to imagine the Enterprise and crew ever fading away. They have become legendary like Sherlock Holmes and Tarzan. A hundred years from now, someone will put on the pointed ears and hold his hand in the Vulcan greeting and say, "Live long and prosper."
IDIC, as they say.
Hugs,
Erin
= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.
Kirk and his yeoman for
Kirk and his yeoman for instance, 'something happening here'. Look at the woman's uniforms. Design by horny teenager! Black tights and high heeled black boots, yeah, that's why my father watched it ( he also watched Wonder Woman).
Karen
Network 'Notes' ;-)
In some of the 50th anniversary hoopla I saw a documentary where they talked about some of the network notes on the original Jeffrey Hunter pilot.
Among them was 'lose the lady second in command' (Majel Barrett got the last laugh there). Another one concerned the costumes. The females in the pilot were far less ...eye candy... than in the greenlit series.
Then again, in hindsight I'm kind of glad the network insisted on those silly changes... because they basically wrote a bunch of the jokes for Sigourney Weaver's 'Gwen' character in Galaxy Quest. Without the sexist 60s eye candy, there would be nothing to lampoon decades later.
Still, I feel great sympathy for the women of TOS. I've read that those costumes were nearly as impractical for real women with real biological needs as Michelle Pfieffer's notorious Catwoman costume. Then again, we never saw a restroom sign in those miles of Enterprise corridors. ...where DID people ...boldly go? ;-)
K@
Even if
I was only 3 weeks old, I remember watching that first episode, and eagerly awaiting each new episode.
loved the show
got to work on Enterprise a few times with Scott bakula and that set was so big you could get lost in it!
the crew was real fun, as most where old buddies from the day
but all for all a bunch good days there, always did love doing EFX with the actors on set
and mmmm the crafty! top notch! (crafty to the outsider=FOOD! on set!)
Proud member of the Whateley Academy Drow clan/collective
craft services
first on set, last off.
my average day doing it was 13 hours on set.
sometimes it was worse, one day a 3 hour drive, 12 hours on set, a 3 hour drive back, clean truck and restock it, then go home. 22 hour day when all said and done. ( official crafty called in sick so I got tapped for the 2nd unit of Fly Away Home that day. { Jeff Daniels and Anna Paquin } )
Stupidity is a capital offense. A summary not indictable.
know that feeling
know that feeling
as a genny op on lots of pictures, I am first on, last off and last to know when the call time is! lol
my last day on set a few months back was 20 hrs straight.
and sometimes they forget I am there and start to go home and not tell me! Spiderman 2 did that! the one with doc Oct
Proud member of the Whateley Academy Drow clan/collective
Vulcans Can't Lie
I know that at least once it's been said on Star Trek that vulcans can't lie. Then I saw the pilot and realized, what a blatant falsehood!
There was also a scene in one of the last TOS movies that I saw, where a lady vulcan tells a lie, and Spock raises his eyebrows and says, "A lie?" The lady vulcan answers, "No, a choice." I think of scenes like that whenever I speculate how it may be possible that someone could lie without knowing it. (I've always hated statements like, "He's lying, and he knows it.") The easy conclusion is that the lady vulcan's answer, "No," was a second lie.
However, might she have believed her answer, "No, a choice," when she decided to say it?
That is, did she really believe that as a "choice", her first lie wasn't a lie? With all the mindless incompetence I've seen, I have to say, yes, it's possible. Yes, it's possible that she really didn't know that she had lied (in her first lie), even though she really did lie.
-- Daphne Xu
If I may cross the NBC streams here
I'd like to quote the antithesis of Vulcan stoicism and emotional suppression - George Costanza - coaching Jerry on how to beat a lie detector;
"It's not a lie if you believe it"
....Vulcans also were allegedly incapable of experiencing emotion.
I think that tells us everything we need to know about Vulcans' inability to lie.
Striving to be honest and unemotional are not quite the same as being unable to do something.
I still love Vulcans, but consider them more ....aspirational... than truly enlightened. :-)
K@
I Agree
"It's not a lie if you believe it" -- when you say it, when you plan to say it, and all times when you haven't decided against saying it. That is my point, why I hate statements like, "He's lying and he knows he's lying." I was considering, though how one could lie without knowing that he was lying. How might that lady vulcan have thought that that she didn't lie, even though she manifestly did lie. (Could she have believed that a "choice" was not a "lie" then?) (It was unambiguously a lie in that she intentionally said a false thing. She believed it was false.)
I'd heard plenty about how vulcans can't lie, or don't lie -- not of that as an aspiration.
-- Daphne Xu
I'm a lifelong Trekkie, and
I'm a lifelong Trekkie, and proud of it. Actually sat and watched The Man Trap last night to celebrate. :-) Really hyped for the new Discovery show.
Debs xxxx
Trek
The serious are called Trekkers (sp).
I went outside once. The graphics weren' that great.
Then again, why be serious? Trekkie! Trekkie! Trekkie!
Then again, why be serious? Especially about somebody's arbitrary language taboos...
I'm a Trekkie, who's transgendered, calls the Timelord in the blue box Doctor Who and lives in Nevaaaaahda, with occasional trips to FRISCO!!!
And remember...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifLqzLEB3E0
The Trek series noticable by its absence
There has been much attention paid to nearly every piece of the franchise. But not a word has been said about the animated series.
Admittedly, much about it was shoestring and low budget. Major Kudos to James Doohan and Nichelle Nichols for doing nearly every additional voice in that series.
Considering it was 30 min of limited animation on Saturday morning "for kids" the writers who took what must have been modest money for their scripts, really took the freedom that they could do in animation what no special effects house of the day could do with live action, and the stories were often far more imaginative and ambitious than what they ever could have done in a live-action primetime series.
Some of it was cringeworthy, but some of it was quite creative and adventurous. The handful of episodes are (were?) available as a DVD box set. If you've never seen them, they may be worth watching - at least once.