I Am Totally Devastated

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There is a heading in "My Accounts" which summarises the total number of kudos which a writer has received. I would jealously chortle over the hundreds of thousands (actually I have to tell the truth....a few hundred) of these precious little items every day, somewhat like Gollum with his ring....my pressshhhusss.

I WENT TO LOOK TODAY AND THEY WERE GONE! ALL GONE!

Have others suffered the same fate? Imagine the anguish this would bring to someone like Angharad, who must have millions and would have to spend hours on the calculator totalling up the score from each chapter.

Dear Administrators, please reassure us that this is a temporary problem,

Joanne

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Jemima Tychonaut's picture

My kudos have been doing it for some time. They occasionally pop back unexpectedly to say 'hi' like a long lost old friend and for a while we reminisce about past successes and failures before with a jaunty wave they head off hitchhiking on the information superhighway to new adventures.

I guess Erin would know why they do it. It's prolly all softwarey and stuff.

 


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If I knew why it happened I would be able to fix it. When I stumble through this world and find a new rock of a shape I've never seen before, I tap it against my forehead to see if it will make the Kudos module behave in a reasonable and predictable way. So far, nothing works.

That's my whimsical way of saying I'm working on the problem when I get time and it is not being at all easy.

Hugs,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

Whew!

My total kudos number seemed to disappear if the total hadn't changed for a certain length of time. The first time it disappeared, I was concerned, but when it returned, I just assumed that this was Erin's way of encouraging the authors to continue to post new material.

When I first noticed this process, it seemed to take a week (or more) of being stable before the number disappeared, but lately that time span has been getting shorter. Now, it's down to mere minutes. It's nice to see that it's not an evil plot by the powers that be, and that Our Erin is coming to the rescue!


The girl in me...
She's always there and she's quite relieved!

Ah-HA!

So you, too, have Schrodinger's kudos!

They're there, and not there, depending on whether you're looking or not.

I have the same issue. *shrug* It's entertaining to see whether the data appears or not. And I'm certain it's as tough for Erin, et. al. to figure out what's causing it as it is to truly comprehend quantum mechanics.

I'm grateful this site is as stable as it is.

Nicole (a.k.a. Itinerant)

--
Veni, Vidi, Velcro:
I came, I saw, I stuck around.

Nicole (a.k.a. Itinerant)

--
Veni, Vidi, Velcro:
I came, I saw, I stuck around.

I just had to reply to your

I just had to reply to your by-line... vini, vidi, velcro. That gave me the best laugh I've had in days. Thanks!

Honestly

Honestly I think you are counting the wrong thing I think it would be honestly smarter if you count the number of times your story has been read cause even when it is no longer up on the front of the page there are still a number of ways to get to the story and that goes up every time someone reads it without that counter ever having issues.

Ah, but Ariana ...

It's not actually counting the number of reads - well it is - but the number of hits. For instance, they count when someone reads half way, shuts down and then goes back to the story, as two separate hits. It also counts when someone only reads a few lines or no lines at all the same way. It counts hits.

The Kudos button gives many authors a sense of achievement because it's something the reader has to go out of their way to do. It signifies (though maybe not entirely accurately) that a reader likes a story and sees fit to give the author a virtual pat on the back.

So I can understand when someone hopes to see an increase in their score - or just their score, but in fact finds nothing at all.

I too have suffered from Schrodinger's Kudos (nice one that) as mine has been buggering off and then popping back for ages now. However, my score has been going up very slowly since I re-released Extreme Makeover, so I'm not really missing much at all.

Cheer up, Jo. It'll come back to be fed before buggering off again for no apparent reason. It's nothing you've done, so you can stop fretting. I think it has something to do with the wordpress software that goes apeshit when changes are made. A similar counter went tits up a couple of years ago and had to be removed.

I'd like to know whether we lost the daily hits list for the same reason.

Jessica
I don't just look it, I'm totally into this Kudos thingy

Hits

Exactly. It counts all of those, plus editing visits by authors, plus...I have an oddity with a couple of my titles, where the title page gets a huge number of hits and the story far less. That is because somebody searches for 'Uniforms', say, or 'Something to Declare', for reasons totally unconnected with stories, and they get the title page on Google. A quick peek, a squeal of disgust, and off they run.

Kudos is given as a conscious choice. I hit a 'random solo' a few minutes ago, and that is the sort of thing that feels good. Getting a little thank you for something I wrote ages ago pleases me, so I trust that my comment was received similarly by the author in question. Conscious comments, conscious kudos, rather than random hit counts.

Oy Joanne!

Another quantum probablity wave Kudosian here. They disappear from mine quite regularly, but come back when I leave a saucer of milk with a little chocolate by the side...

You can catch them on TV

You know that reality show, "Keeping up with the Kudosians' - takes viewers inside the hectic lives of Big Closet's modern-day authors as they search for fame and fortune. The reality bytes are elusive so stay tuned as various clicks are formed and reformed in hopes of gaining access to the elusive prize.

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At one time I lived just about on the Dateline. No smart remarks from you, Steph,

Your Equatorial Correspondent,

Joanne

Kudeos, what are those?

I PM'd Erin long ago that mine were MIA for the nth time and since then, they've stayed away. After a while, you get used to the absence of little keyboard clicks. :-)

PB

They took mine away

I commented awhile back that I didn't care about kudos and didn't bother to check (or leave) them, and a day later they were gone for me. Couldn't leave one if I wanted to, it's grayed out. I figured somebody in authority was upset at my unappreciative attitude and made sure I'd never be able to do anything with them. What my mother used to call cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Kudos are like having marshmallows in your hot chocolate, if you want a cup of hot chocolate they might be nice to have, but it certainly isn't necessary.

Karen J.

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Um, no

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I don't even have a way to do that on purpose. And if I did, I wouldn't bother unless someone specifically asked me to.

Hugs,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

my kudo input

You can't Kudo yourself, though it is fun to try.

K.T. Leone

My fiction feels more real than reality

Katie Leone (Katie-Leone.com)

Writing is what you do when you put pen to paper, being an author is what you do when you bring words to life

Yeah, but . . .

I can't kudo anybody.

Karen J.

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I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. - Winston Churchill


"Life is not measured by the breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.”
George Carlin

Well, seems strange

Within 24 hrs of making my comment (and that was about 6 months ago, roughly) everything disappeared. What numbers I had were gone, I can't see them on other author's stories, and I can't leave them. I had an idea who I suspected was responsible, the person knows enough about BC's code to be able to hack it I feel, and this person and I don't get along. I also figure this person is petty enough to have done so if s/he could.

No, I won't name names.

Karen J.

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I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. - Winston Churchill


"Life is not measured by the breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.”
George Carlin

Nope, just ain't possible

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The kudos software has been re-installed twice since then in an attempt to fix this kind of goofy stuff. And only three people have ever had the access to hack the code. And none of those three (only two of us left) have the energy and/or time to waste on such a petty annoyance.

More and more, I'm thinking kudos are not worth the hassle because the code is severely broken and always has been.

Hugs,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

Just tried something

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Kudos doesn't work for you because you aren't using the regular theme. I had to hack the theme code to make kudos work and I only did this for the main theme.

Hugs,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

But

First off, they worked until that day. Second, I switched to several different themes including the default one and kudos still didn't work. I didn't bring it up before now 'cause I wasn't going to give the person I believe responsible the satisfaction.

FWIW, I still prefer the original look of the site.

Karen J.

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I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. - Winston Churchill


"Life is not measured by the breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.”
George Carlin

There is no "person responsible"

erin's picture

At the time this happened, there were only two people who could have done it. One of them is dead and the other one is me. It's just bad unpredictable software.

Hugs,
Erin

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

= Give everyone the benefit of the doubt because certainty is a fragile thing that can be shattered by one overlooked fact.

Arbitrary

I had a look at some author pages, out of curiosity, deliberately picking some whom I know to have been given at least some kudos. About fifty per percent are bereft of kudos and now singing with the quire* invisible. No consistency, as far as I can see, which must make it harder for Erin to pin down the reason.

*No, not a typo...

Mine's gone AWOL

But it'll probably be back within a day or two - as others have said, the Kudos count on "My Account" behaves a bit like a certain thought experiment...

Last time I checked I'd just gone past the number of degrees in a revolution, which may not seem much but then again I haven't exactly posted oodles of stuff (and that that I do gets posted so intermittently half the potential readers probably find something less boring to do than waiting!)

If only someone had written a voting module for Drupal that (a) was simple to add, (b) simple to use, (c) stable (i.e. hasn't been known to muck up any site on which it's been introduced), (d) works on multiple versions of Drupal (so sites can be upgraded without worrying about the upgrade breaking it or it breaking the upgrade) and (e) would integrate with the table in "My Stores"...

 

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I still have mine, kudos not marbles, they went a long time ago.

Angharad

Angharad

'Ere Ang

I thought it was Peter Pan's mate, Tootles, what lost his marbles.

Was that you?

Wow!

Jessica
I don't just look it, I'm totally off my trolley

Nah

Was that woman what runs this site. Erin Halfelgin.

I hope

I hope the Greeks don't want The Halfelgin Marbles back too!

I never had any Kudos

But I just assumed it was because I am such a bloody awful wordsmythe. You know someone must be on the bottom pushing up. :)

Gwendolyn

Kudos

I've made note of my Kudo numbers whenever they are visible. If you haven't had a Kudo for a period of time, and I can't quite nail down what that time is, they just seemingly disappear. But if someone gives you a Kudo or two they will return for a while.

One could speculate that the author of the Kudo module felt that authors bereft of recent Kudos did not need to use up site resources to query the database and report the same number as before.

Get a friend to give you a Kudo (if they haven't already) and see if your Kudos show up again.

Hope this helps.

Arwen

For me...

It seems to be more based on ME posting FICTION. Blogs don't count. Other people giving me fresh kudo's don't make them appear - I've had them disappear, I get new kudos, and my kudo count doesn't reappear. But I post a new "story" and even before anyone kudo's it, all my kudo counts reappear. After something like a few days of inactivity, they're back lurking again.

Abigail Drew.

Abigail Drew.

And There I Thought It Was Only Me

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Kudoes are nice, I admit, but I didn't intend to cause a firestorm, and each of my stories still carries its individual total of kudoes, so, if I cared enough, I could total them up to see what my "score" is. I can't be bothered to do that.

We could go back to the perennial discussion about how you measure the popularity of a story, to which there is no definitive answer. Is it the number of hits? Is it the number of kudoes? Is it the number of comments? Is it how much personal satisfaction you got from writing it?

Personally, I wouldn't write or post if it didn't satisfy me. I have a dozen or more partly written tales in my laptop which will probably never see the light of day because I can't bring them to a satisfactory (to me) conclusion. Having said that I just LURVE comments, and to me these are the oxygen for my stories. If I didn't get feedback from comments I would stop writing.

Hits? Yeah, OK. They give some indication of interest, but as others have said, they may just be someone peeping and going "Naah, not for me." Some are my own, when I tweak, or even pop in to read a comment. Some of the best stories, especially series, have low hit counts but a dedicated core following of fans. Take EAFOAB. If that were mine I would be delighted to have hundreds still reading me after 1500+ episodes.

So....kudoes. Shrug. They have replaced the old voting system, so if I check out one of my older stories I might have five kudoes, but I know I once had maybe forty or fifty votes. If they all disappeared today it wouldn't be a tragedy....a little annoying maybe, but that's all.

The important thing is that all my favourite authors, and my not-so-favourite authors, keep on posting.

Your Equatorial Correspondent

Joanne

I've got loads of kudos

Angharad's picture

you can have some of mine.

Angharad

And I am very pleased to have a handful of readers still reading Bike and pointing out all the mistakes I make. :)

Angharad

What a figure!

Angharad's picture

I have a four and four sevens ie 47777 today in my kudos account, just struck me as a sort of weird symmetry.

Angharad

Angharad

Kudos Champion Of The World

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Well, you worked/work hard for them. You're the first to 1500+ episodes. Tell us when you get to 100,000 kudoes! But I hope you don't have to count them yourself,

Joanne

Same here

Not that I'm surprised.

I should write more and not give it reason to go AWOL

Jessica
I don't just look it, I'm totally miffed

And mine!

Had just broken a big number as well...[Arnie] They'll be back!

The prodigal kudos

They have suddenly returned,
So few and yet so dear,
Thinking I was spurned,
Yet now it seems so clear
They merely wanted a writer's love,
To know that they were missed,
Though I was not above,
Being greatly pissed,
But now all is forgiven,
They're home where they belong,
It's time to go on livin',
And sing a happy song.

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Wow,

I am a kudos's fan. I need my kudos, I have just started collecting the little digital tokens.

I had wondered, as I had seen stories (especially Angharad's early bike series) with 7 kudos's, give or take. I am up to 800 in the series and the numbers are style way down. Then I saw other really good stories I knew had have more than I was seeing. I was confused by quite a bit.

So here I am, scrolling down the FAQ looking for answers to another issue, and I came across this thread. No answers, but at least an explanation, which will have to do.

If it happens to me, I will morn them. Someone has already said this, but they are the ultimate proof that someone has not only read my story, but has taken the time to move a mouse to declare this story had been worth their time.

Comments are precious, but most times, kudos will have to do.