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It's been done before

Some fanfiction author is going to sue. The 10th anniversary (has it been that long?) Twilight is going to have a genderswapped version of the story.

(I included NSFW based upon what people are likely to say when they see the story. I couldn't find a Caution for horrible things.)

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Breaking Dusk

So... the man gets pregnant, then?

I'm not sure about this new trend for rewriting the same story from a different perspective, eg, 'Grey'. It smacks to me that the author can't let go or has exhausted their imagination for new stories.

Penny

Or the author

Intends to milk a cash cow as long as it's giving milk. I think 'Twilight' has officially jumped the shark, but there's still money to be made. Kiddies (of all ages) will undoubtedly flock to give up their cash for this, proving once again P.T. Barnum's saying, "There's a sucker born every minute".


I went outside once. The graphics weren' that great.

This is also why many authors

This is also why many authors refuse to even consider looking at fan fiction. They don't want to be accused of stealing ideas.

Interestingly enough, in the 'normal' fantasy world (I'm not considering Twilight to be normal in any way), many fanfic authors would be/are happy to give up 'rights' to an idea if the author uses them. It's only greedy buggers that think that the 'idea' is worth the mint. (rather than the work involved in creating the final product)


I'll get a life when it's proven and substantiated to be better than what I'm currently experiencing.

Or the fact

Teresa L.'s picture

that the fan fic is BASED on the authors story to begin with. i doubt it will get any traction, but you never know, our legal system is so screwed up sometimes

Teresa L.

There is only one difference.

The only difference between fiction and fanfiction, is those that write fanfiction admit they are borrowing ideas.

All stories borrow ideas from previous stories. Or, in some cases just take the story of someone else, as whole, and retell that story with the names, dates, and places changed.

The whole point of copyright was not so much to protect someone's work, but to keep from being sued by someone else.

And by the way, fanfiction is much, much older than most people think. The first recorded works of fanfiction is, "The Death of Julius Caesar." Someone in ancient Rome wrote a play about Julius Caesar's death. It was such a hit that others wrote their own versions of the eventually. It got to the point that people were writing plays about Julius Cassar's death, based solely on the previous plays they had seen and read about. And that folks is the fanfiction.

Now, to the topic at the top. My opinion of the genderswap of the Twilight series. I call that tame. A test pattern. You want to do something interesting, make it a male on male homoerotic story with vampires. The fangirls will love that. And let's be honest, the core customer base for the Twilight are fangirls. And a lot of these girls are fans of male on male yaoi fiction and fanfiction. Actually, most yaoi fiction and fanfiction is written by fangirls.

If the movies are done well enough, it will be like the Titanic film. The girls will go to see those films over and over again. The films would break box office records.

Unfortunately, those that control Hollywood are to hetro and to set in their ways to realize this.

As it stands. A gender swap for Twilight will cause half the fan base to consider it an insult, and the other half of the fan base will shrug their shoulders.

Copyright was NOT to protect

Copyright was NOT to protect against lawsuits. Not sure where you came up with that one.

Copyright, at least in the US, was enacted shortly after the creation of the country (within 20 years?). The purpose of it was to allow the creator of a work (books and sheet music, primarily) protection against other people reaping the profits from his efforts. It was set to 14 years (17?) (as I recall - not more than that) so that someone who wrote a book, for example, could earn the money for the work, even with it taking a year to print, and up to 6 months to move to another area (or across the ocean), but still be paid.

You see, at that point, moveable type printing was really gearing up, so it was becoming easy for a printer to grab a book, etc, set his own type, print the book, then sell it, reaping all of the profits. The creator being in New York, and the printer in Savannah, meant that the creator often didn't even know it was happening, until his local printer that shipped the books couldn't sell any - there was already a glut of them on the market. This gave the creator the ability to then go after the unauthorized printer for damages.

The problem is that copyright has, especially since 1976, gotten enormously out of hand. No longer are creators protected, but really, only massive corporations - who aren't people to get a copyright. (how do you do life of the author plus 70 years when the 'author' is supposedly an immortal corporation?)


I'll get a life when it's proven and substantiated to be better than what I'm currently experiencing.

Please, think on this.

Copyright, at least in the US, was enacted shortly after the creation of the country (within 20 years?). The purpose of it was to allow the creator of a work (books and sheet music, primarily) protection against other people reaping the profits from his efforts.

And how do you think that works? Copyright was originally intended as documentation of ownership and creation of a fiction or non-fiction document, to prevent someone from later suing that person, with the one suing claiming that created it.

What has gone wrong with copyright is third parties and non-person entities (corporations) have been allowed to hold the copyright of works, when it should only be those that create the works, whom should own the works.

Now, what are you thoughts on the original topic of this thread? Or, the rest of my previous response on this thread?

I honestly think a good male on male vampire film could work.

Copyright was so that person

Copyright was so that person A could reap the benefits of their work, and that B could not then claim the benefits. Whether or not B claimed to be the author wasn't the point. It was that B couldn't do anything without permission from A.

I don't think that a M/M vampire story would work well, even in the homosexual male community. The penetrative aspects might be okay (if over the top), but I think the parasite concept wouldn't work well. Now, _werewolves_, on the other hand, would probably go very well. Hairy, muscular alpha males, going at it in a dominance fight? Homosexual _gold_, even if the sex wasn't played up. Heck, straight women would probably enjoy it too. (I prefer to use the term 'gay' in the original 'happy/pleasant' meaning. I've known too many really depressed and messed up homosexuals)


I'll get a life when it's proven and substantiated to be better than what I'm currently experiencing.

Rule 63 of the Internet

For every given male character, there is a female version of that character.
For every given female character, there is a male version of that character.

Meanwhile, one particular sparkly vampire fanfic, following a substantial rewrite (to take it out of the universe), went on to become a much parodied success in its own right (four dozen and two distinct values between black and white). That author's also rewritten her first book, albeit from the deuteragonist's point of view.

It wouldn't surprise me if someone's written a fanfic of that, replacing the central characters with Anastasius and Christine...


As the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only left-handers are in their right mind!